Discussion on A Bombs
Don't you think if the A-bombs weren't used in Nagasaki and Hiroshami that they would be used somewhere else?
In response to your question if other counrties would have used an A-Bomb. Yes, I think another country would have used one if they could. If we did not use them to end WWII with Japan, the Russians might have entered the Korean War with the Chinese. Especially if things were to go badly for the Chinese. We might have used nukes against the Chinese during the Korean War, like Gen. MacArthur wanted to do. Where do you think "bomb them back to the stone age" came from? The main reason we did not, was because of what we learned from the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and because Russia was also a nuclear power. If we did not use the weapons in WWII, we all most certainly would not be here because of the Korean War.
Whats done is done. In order to go on as a species, we have to learn from our mistakes to prevent the one that will take us all out. Are you saying that the end does not justify the means by which the end was reached? If that is what you are saying, then yes, the end does not always justify the way we came to the conclusion of a problem, I agree. It is easy to judge when we have hindsight to judge our actions.
Response that throughout history that American's have been constant warefare. That other countries don't look highly upon us, because we always feel like we have to be included. Our History books are even written in such a way where it only has the American viewpoint and not other countries. To understand you kind of have to look at both sides of the story. It's kind of a set up for our society be one-sided and not open minded. Thats probably why it's so hard to break free from our stances and be more acceptable to others view. Writing the history book in the American view makes it so history's not as damn confusing, but to really understand the history it would have to be longer and revised.
We do not have the right to stick our nose into everyones business. At the same time though, people will criticize the USA for not doing enough. That is how the incidents in Somalia happened back in 1993. We went in when other nations complained that we were not doing enough to stop the warlords who were taking the Food Aid that we were sending in. We tried and then everything became political, so we pulled out. Again in Bosnia, but we stuck it out. Sometimes we stick our noses where they do not belong, but I am tired of hearing that we are not doing enough. Almost $100 billion is given to other governments around the world by the USA. Whats to stop other nations from going into the Sudan? Why are countries like France saying that the US should be the first in? Meanwhile we are trying to get the African Union to step up, because they keep saying they do not want or need our help.
It is either we are not doing enough or we are doing too much. No one will ever have the right balance for what we should be doing or not doing.
Thats good that you Grandmother hates war. Her generation has seen plenty of conflicts. Heck the US has been in 9 that I can remember off hand in the 24 years I have been alive. It is important that we do hate war, because when we get mad and lose that feeling, things like Iraq happen. Afganistan was justified, Iraq was painted to be so, but actually wasn't.
History eventually finds the truth in the societies that give their people the freedom to ask questions. North Korea is a prime example where people do not have any freedom. They work, worship their leader like a God, then die of starvation or disease. How do we handle NK with their threats of possessing nukes? Trust everyone to get rid of theirs as we get rid of ours? It will only work once all nations are open, honest, and extend trust to the other people of other nations. You are right, it will be a long time before that happens.
So, lets live it up while we can still hide in the dark.
In response to your question if other counrties would have used an A-Bomb. Yes, I think another country would have used one if they could. If we did not use them to end WWII with Japan, the Russians might have entered the Korean War with the Chinese. Especially if things were to go badly for the Chinese. We might have used nukes against the Chinese during the Korean War, like Gen. MacArthur wanted to do. Where do you think "bomb them back to the stone age" came from? The main reason we did not, was because of what we learned from the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and because Russia was also a nuclear power. If we did not use the weapons in WWII, we all most certainly would not be here because of the Korean War.
Whats done is done. In order to go on as a species, we have to learn from our mistakes to prevent the one that will take us all out. Are you saying that the end does not justify the means by which the end was reached? If that is what you are saying, then yes, the end does not always justify the way we came to the conclusion of a problem, I agree. It is easy to judge when we have hindsight to judge our actions.
Response that throughout history that American's have been constant warefare. That other countries don't look highly upon us, because we always feel like we have to be included. Our History books are even written in such a way where it only has the American viewpoint and not other countries. To understand you kind of have to look at both sides of the story. It's kind of a set up for our society be one-sided and not open minded. Thats probably why it's so hard to break free from our stances and be more acceptable to others view. Writing the history book in the American view makes it so history's not as damn confusing, but to really understand the history it would have to be longer and revised.
We do not have the right to stick our nose into everyones business. At the same time though, people will criticize the USA for not doing enough. That is how the incidents in Somalia happened back in 1993. We went in when other nations complained that we were not doing enough to stop the warlords who were taking the Food Aid that we were sending in. We tried and then everything became political, so we pulled out. Again in Bosnia, but we stuck it out. Sometimes we stick our noses where they do not belong, but I am tired of hearing that we are not doing enough. Almost $100 billion is given to other governments around the world by the USA. Whats to stop other nations from going into the Sudan? Why are countries like France saying that the US should be the first in? Meanwhile we are trying to get the African Union to step up, because they keep saying they do not want or need our help.
It is either we are not doing enough or we are doing too much. No one will ever have the right balance for what we should be doing or not doing.
Thats good that you Grandmother hates war. Her generation has seen plenty of conflicts. Heck the US has been in 9 that I can remember off hand in the 24 years I have been alive. It is important that we do hate war, because when we get mad and lose that feeling, things like Iraq happen. Afganistan was justified, Iraq was painted to be so, but actually wasn't.
History eventually finds the truth in the societies that give their people the freedom to ask questions. North Korea is a prime example where people do not have any freedom. They work, worship their leader like a God, then die of starvation or disease. How do we handle NK with their threats of possessing nukes? Trust everyone to get rid of theirs as we get rid of ours? It will only work once all nations are open, honest, and extend trust to the other people of other nations. You are right, it will be a long time before that happens.
So, lets live it up while we can still hide in the dark.
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